Is it possible to invest money in Tibia?

Question

If I have 100kks. Can I use that money in "something" that's absolutely sure that its going to give me more money?
Because if you have 50, 100, 300kks, you don't do nothing with that, but, exist something in tibia to "invest"?

Like this: Buy 30kks in Potatoes and in 1 month you can sell it for 45kks

Answer 1

Yes its possible to invest in Tibia but I really don't recommend you to buy rares and wait until that items get some value.

Let my explain you why. Some time ago you can´t get items like: "Silver Mace, Dragon Scale Helmet, Demon Legs, etc".

but NOW this its how it work with that items

Item	Price Before	Price Now
Silver Mace	200kk	7kk
Demon Legs	100kk	5kk
Dragon Scale Helmet	200-300kk	3kk
//	//	//

 So buy some rares = bad idea 

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Buy Fansite items its a good idea but not the best! because why if in a contest a Fansite give 3 fansite items in the same server? the cost of that item will decrease.

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SO! how can I invert with 100% safe? 

I only can think in 1 item : Mouthpiece for a Horn ""

and why? in ALL servers you can buy 1 backpack of that item for 60-70k, if you use that item with the bones in Roshamuul, you get 1 cluster, and you can sell it for 12k or 13k so its between 9-7k for each mouthpiece for a horn.

And in 1 hunt you can collect maybe 100-150 bones or maybe more

That's 1.3kk or 1kk for hunt "only in bones" 

So: lets use maths, if you have 30kks and u want to get more money. ask in trade channel and buy a lot of backpacks of that item "some people have 6.000 mouths for sell"

30kks -----> 10.000 or 8.500 Mouthpieces

Hunt daily there, 2 hunts in 1 day -> 200 - 300 bones for sure.

 So, in 1 Month and some days u can get 10.000 bones and if you sell ALL

That's 120kks

PROFIT 90kks in 1 month only in that

Comments

This is cool idea and all but it requires more than just investing - making 2 hunts a day isn't that easy. Especially in Rosh.

Answer 2

I would like to expand FPoPP’s answer a bit (which is very good nevertheless) and add some examples from my personal experience.
I ran Tibiabosses Rare’s Pricecheck for 3 years already and have over 10 years of experience in trading/investing in Tibia.
 

Investing in Rares

Investing in rares can be a good way to get high amounts of money. However, I would recommend to analyse them thoroughly before taking any decisions:

• Why is the item rarity? What is the history of the item? Can it be possibly obtained in the upcoming future?

Historical items like Rose shield, Magic Longsword, Shield of honour, Broken amulet, and some items given by fansites during contests (yellow rose and grey tome) are highly unlikely to be dropped by any creature in the future. They have long, solid history and are valued by collectors and traders. On the other hand, investing in items like fabulous legs, which may seem rare only for a short amount of time after the implementation to the game is not recommended.

• Why is it expensive? Is it just a decoration or does it have some practical use?

Dragon scale boots are a good example here. At some point their price skyrocketed from about 15kk to even 100kk as they become generally quite useful with their additional fire protection and the fact that they are equipped on boots slot.
+ only one boss drops them
 

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Some items which are not any rare or even nearly worthless can become a rare due to some special circumstances, developer’s decision etc.

Let me give you a few examples:

•  broken amulet – when amulets of life turned into them in 2003 you were able to sell this item for 50k to  NPC Eremo. Most players just sold them to NPC and over the course of the years we can observe that it wasn’t a good decision.

The price of the amulet raised to about 1kk in 2005 and then raised significantly to reach 200kk and over in 2020. This is one of the best possible examples of good investment items.

It would be possible to present many more examples, like Golden Helmet which price increased from about 20kk (about a dozen years ago) to 1kkk (1 billion gp) in 2020.

•  key 4600 – available on Rookgaard, sold by NPC for 5gp. Nowadays unobtainable and even though people have even some backpacks of them (I have about 8 keys myself) they sell for 1kk or even more. Keep in mind that the demand is low and it’s hard to find a serious buyer.
   
•  wooden sword – it was available on Tutorial Island for free and possibly thousands of them lay in the depots of players. But it’s unobtainable now, so the price on Antica reached 500k-1kk.
   
•  stone of wisdom – they were replaced by stones of insight and they were available for everyone who participated in Rise of Devovorga World Quest. Their price (when they were available) usually never reached more than 500k. Quickly after developers announced that this item won’t be available anymore. I bought about 10 of them and later sold for 2-3.5kk each.
   
•  royal helmets imbued with powerful epiphany (mlvl +4) – these were available for all vocations and could give an interesting boost for knights and paladins who couldn’t get such high mlvl bonus (except Jean Pierre’s dish). People who imbued significant amounts of them (and there were quite a few) can now sell each helmet for even 10kk.

We cannot really predict which item will become unobtainable, but it’s generally good to have some unusual items and a bit of everything in your depot. Who knows, you may find yourself a millionaire in the future with a really low effort.

Personal hint - I have bought and obtained some oracle figurines. They already are not so easy to get and I have a suspicion that they may become unobtainable in some years.

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Market

I had an investment project on Antica a few years ago. The goal was to buy an expensive and unobtainable (only available via trading) item. I started with a piggy bank which I get from Santa and after 2 years ended with 65kk for which I bought a Shield of Honour.
First, I invested in very cheap items like chicken feathers, minotaur leathers (addon item – high demand) and such, then slowly moved to higher tiers. At the end, I mostly traded high-end equipment pieces – for example ornate chestplates, where I was able to get even 2kk profit on one transaction.



I planned to resell the shield at some point as it appeared to be a good investition. I finally decided to never sell it, but the price nowadays is about 165kk on Antica which means 100kk price increase in 4 years.

If you plan to get big amounts of money through investments, it is crucial to understand the demand and supply terms.

High demand - best or very good equipment items which lots of people want to get OR very beautiful sprite of a decoration item
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Low supply - rarity of the item determines its amount on the market

These two factors determine the final price of the item and should help you to make a decision whether to invest or not. Of course you have to be very careful as inflation, making items dropable, adding new items and other unpredictable circumstances may ruin even a good plan.

Comments

Hey, if you want to add this question feel free to do so, I know you had it earlier and I thought it was a cool mention.

https://www.tibia.com/news/?subtopic=newsarchive&id=784&fbegind=30&fbeginm=3&fbeginy=2000&fendd=29&fendm=4&fendy=2020&flist=01011111

It's regarding the article Stephan wrote about the economy and it redirects you to the article if you scroll down to where it says "Stephan, who is one of CipSoft’s CEOs, has written a fascinating thesis that explores the economy of a typical Tibia game world in detail...."

Answer 3

One of your chances would be to invest on rares. There are too many of them, but I can cite quickly as a very observable example of value growth the 15th anniversary bps, among other stuff from this exclusive event. The same goes to other legendary items, as Rune Emblems (golden preferably) or very rare historical items, as the Blessed Shield or the Yellow Rose. I would say that these anniversary items and some other related will have its price rise with the time.

However, rare items can be very expensive, and you still would have the risk of losing the whole value if it happens of being something that eventually gets popular on a monster drop (many legendary items eventually were added on creatures loot stats), so consider it the risk of your investment operation.

I would recommend special fansite items as another possible rare to be invested in a safe way, specially from the ones that were discontinued from the supported fansite program (thus, they will likely never grow in quantity, continuing on being scarce). Fansite items are usually pretty awesome to look at, can be great decorations for houses, and even with the occasional distribution of such items from time to time, they can be pretty high at value.

Make sure to calculate inflationary value of the gold on your server, your best guess to be assured of it is to compare the gp value with Tibia Coins value (EXAMPLE: if for some reason a lot of money is inserted on enormous quantity on your server for any reason, and now a great amount of money is circulating around on economical active players, Tibia Coins price will rise very highly, so it means that gold overall got a devaluation, making fair to you to correct the value of the rare with a bigger value on gold coins, and also add the correct value expected of it as a rare that you had the work to "conserve" on your account). Due to this, try to compare the price of rares with Tibia Coins, since they are a resource way more important for making money compared to ordinary gold coins. That's the modern situation to adjust prices on contemporary Tibia. Usually it all depends on what the other players are willing to pay on a rare, but understand that your value needs a reasonable price expected, since you got a big risk of having such money accumulated on a single item.

And again I gonna repeat the most important: Pay attention to the risk of this operation. Some items might show up as a ordinary loot at any update as a surprise and even fansite items can devalue due to continual insertion of such items in game, although I don't believe it as the main problem. It is lower the risk for anniversary items showing up in game legally again, but it stills a possibility. Rose Shields were added once again in game on anniversary after several years, but I can't say if it was a big hit on its prices.

Answer 4

I would correlate that with real life.

I feel that investing money in anything, be it 'pretend' or not it can't be absolutely sure because otherwise it's an infinite source of money.
Although there are some investiments that have a very low chance of 'going awry' and therefore are considered good investiments.

I see that if you mean to invest, the only 'hard work' you mean to do should not be something such as 'buy supplies with it and go hunt', that's investing but I don't think that's what you mean, it should be at the Auction House / Market, buying and selling and that's where I'll begin.

I have done this on other MMORPGs and I've been extremely successful in all of them, except Tibia where I did just 'OK', nontheless, here's what I did and do.

- Imbuement Items / Rares / Potions / Items in general
    I don't do those, they're directly related to the amount of players, monsters they hunt and so on, that makes the market wide and too volatile.

-Tibia Coins
    After carefully watching the market for around one month you can evaluate the 'average' price and have an idea of when most people buy and sell and for what value they can go and most importantly, when that happens.
With that in mind, I buy TCs and Resell them at the best time.
Take in consideration
IRL payment - from 25th to 10th day of the month - People earn their money and then spend it.
IRL timezone - If the server population is predominantly from South America, then most players might be on from 18 to 2am (usually that's when most leave work/school in South America)
Tibia events - Rapid Respawn - Devovorga - Morgaroth - and so no
Player organized Tibia events - Quest services, Forum gatherings and so on.

So, with careful planning and some critical thinking, you can get a nice excel sheet and do some business inteligence and properly make some money.
I do recommend some further reading in other aspects, such as, doctorate and master thesis about Macroeconomics on the Digital World, about the impact of cheating on the Tibian market and so on.

At your own rist, you may take a look at a Thesis from Stephan himself about Tibia.
https://www.scribd.com/document/370272928/Macroeconomics-English?secret_password=FwKM9SIzD6aBHGzdJdKE

Let me know if you'd like to know more about it, I can elaborate.

Answer 5

Yeah it is possible and you can make good money. Even I have started learning financial investment but it is hard to make a decision when you are almost a beginner. Currently stuck at calculation of Cost Inflation Index on capital assets. It will be great if anyone here could help!

Answer 6

Longtime investments can be a bit tricky here because you don't know if in a next update they're going to make the rare you're hodling a new drop, is better to make short-term gains, like playing with Djinn, Rashid and Rathleton items

Answer 7

tried to do it with wereboar hooves - thought it's a great idea as i bought them for 400 gp/each, after all i earned like 30k and got very nervous

Answer 8

There are still plenty rares that continue to gain value over time like SoH and yellow rose, but you always run as risk of it dropping a lot from cip adding it to the game

Answer 9

One of the most old ways: Buy/sell  Brown Mushroom

Brown Mushroom NPC by 10 GP

Sold it in market by 11 GP

Every Mushroom Sold u get 1 GB

So if you sell 1kk on Mushrooms won 100k

100kk to won 10kk ou only need TIME to buy and put in of market. The good part is 100% safe.