I fully agree that the Caveman gods are, in fact, THE SAME few Gods as in the offical lore, the same powers which are worshipped in most other parts of Tibia.
That's what I've always thought, ever since I met the Cavemen and talked with them for the first time, which was a decade or so ago.
In fact, I'm really suprised that this fact (that the Cavemen tribe of people worship the same Gods as most other Tibians) wasn't a common knowledge until now .
To Mogh - I've read your full article on TibiaSecrets and I really enjoyed it, although I also respecfully disagree with a couple of things ;)
(I will have to visit those Cavemen soon again, because I seem to remember some different asnwers and a bit different story they gave me those 10 years ago, compared to what you presented at some point in your article. But that's a minor thing and perhaps their transcripts have been changed since then, or maybe I just misunderstood something in the past).
However, sticking strictly to the subject of their Gods discussed here, I think that their counterparts from the main lore are a bit different than what you propose here.
I believe that:
1) Krunos is indeed Crunor - that one is probably the most obvious, both his name and abilities or powers of "giving life and making things grow" fit perfectly.
"K" and "C" represent the same or similar phoneme across different languages, we change the ending from "R" to "S" and we get Krunos out of Crunor. Nice and easy, I don't have any doubts as to his identity here.
2) Uzroth is indeed one entity derived from the pair of somewhat-independent-yet-forever-bound-together gods Uman Zathroth. This pair of deities function as kind of Divine Twins in Tbia lore, both opposing and complementing each other, in a very Yin and Yang sort of way where one cannot exist without the other and the balance is achieved somewhere in-between of their eternal strife.
So it's not that surpsising that they were fused and merged into one single entity in the minds of some remote tribe of people. I won't call those people primitive, because I think they're really wise, spiritually. But they have their own simple ways of life and perhaps also a bit simpler ways of thinking than what, let's say, a priestess from one of the main Tibian temples or a learned Wizard from the Edron Academy of Might and Magic would have to say on the same matter. So perhaps they're OVERSIMPLIFYING certain things... Or possibly it's the other way round, perhaps it is the nerdish learned bunch of priestesses and wizards who make everything unncessarily OVERCOMPLICATED ;)
Anyway, Uman has kept his initial U, Zatroth was modified into a shorther form "Zroth" - and what we get is Uzroth. His innate duality makes him volatile, unpredictable and "easy to anger", as the tribe describes him.
3) But similarly, Fasuon is, as I STRONGLY believe, one entity derived from the offical pair of Tibian two SUNS, which are FAFNAR and Suon. Just like with Uman- Zathroth pair, they both oppose and complement each other, one of them being the peaceful and benevolent sun and the other the furious and scorching one; the first of them forever chasing and guarding the fleeing and rebelious other one.
Note that even in those transcripts which you have presented here, the Cavemen talk about Fasuon as the great WATCHER who SEES EVERYTHING with his pair of FLAMING EYES, and that a lot of EVIL HAPPENS AT NIGHT, when Fasuon closes his eyes and SLEEPS. That's why I'm absolutely sure, that Fasuon is precisely the Fafnar-Suon fusion, merged into one single entity with a pair of all-seeing, flaming eyes - opened during the day, closed at night: when predators lurk unseen in the shadows, when enemy creeps closer in the darkness, and when all sorts of unpredictable, invisible dangers surround the unsuspecting, soundly sleeping victims who simply can't be alert all the tme.
Those descriptions of Fasuon, his powers and his weakneses (when he closes his eyes at night) bring to my mind exactly the divine pair of Fafnar and Suon - Tibian fascinating Siblings Suns. Fafnar's name begins with "Fa", then we add "Suon" and we get Fasuon. It really fits so far.
4) And finally, I believe that their Pandor is the divine warrior BANOR, not Fardos. Here is my reasoning:
- From a mythological/spiritual point of view, when we read the description of his "area of expertise" and abilities, and then compare them to Banor's lore - we see that this is the same archetype of a great, powerful, brave, NOBLE WARRIOR, an eternal fighter, encouraging and inspiring his bravery in others. He is STRONG and VICTORIOUS, so he's sad or even ashamed that the Cavemen tribe had lost the battle with its many stronger enemies and retreated into the mountains where they just hide in shame and defeat. (I'm not saying that it's their fault or that they currently have any chance of a spectacular victory, as their tribe is too small, but their defeat makes them bitter and they feel unworthy of Pandor's blessings right now).
It's true that in the main mythology/lore Banor is described as a MORTAL MAN (not an original deity) YET he was not only the FIRST HUMAN but also, as some believe, had ascended to GODHOOD, after fulfilling his mission on Earth. But I think it's an even stronger reason for the tribe to worship him as a sort of a relatable "immortalised mortal", a celestial HERO who protects them and who is worth to imitate, especially in the tough times, when the tribe really needs some courage in their hearts... Even in the official lore Banor was the beacon of HOPE for humans in the wars with Djinns or with the ORCISH HORDE,which is precisely the main enemy that the Cavemen tribe has to deal with right now (!).
- And from a linguistic point of view - voiced consonant "B" changes into it's unvoiced counterpart "P", then the middle consonant "N" gets a dental "D" attached to it and we get PANDOR out of BANOR.
That's how I interpet in anyway - I don't think that Fardos is mentioned by the tribe at all, and even in the main mythology, he stands above and apart from everyone else, as Fardos the Creator. (The Genesis says that he was one of the two elder Gods, together with Uman Zathroth, but it is Fardos who INITIATES the creation, as he is simply "overflowing with creative power and impatient to release it", that's why I say that for me he's somehow separate even from his co-creators of the Tibian world).
Anyway, even though I disagree with you on some parts, I'm still very pleased that someone is FINALLY talking about it at all, and going in what I believe is the generally right direction :)
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